Hi,
I have problem with:
identify -verbose xx.pdf
This pdf file is created in adobe illustrator and determined for printing. (CMYK pdf file) but output from identify shows SRGB color space. Where could be problem please?
Or is there any solution to find all colors including PANTONE in pdf, tiff and other file formats? But mainly in pdf.
Thanks for advises. Cheers!
Elevate
Problem with detecting colorspace
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Re: Problem with detecting colorspace
Imagemagick does not recognize Pantone colors. It only knows about colors specified as rgb, hsl, hsb, hex and colornames. See http://www.imagemagick.org/script/color.php
To get further with your cmyk vs rgb problem, you would need to post your image to some free image hosting service such as dropbox, so that others can download and review it.
Also please always identify your version of IM and platform.
To get further with your cmyk vs rgb problem, you would need to post your image to some free image hosting service such as dropbox, so that others can download and review it.
Also please always identify your version of IM and platform.
Re: Problem with detecting colorspace
Thanks for your reply!
I have problem for example with this Img:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/splqyjpkyxrp44i/Black.pdf
It's should be cmyk(0, 0, 0, 76), cmyk(0, 0, 0, 96) colors, but imagemagick identify says, its sRGB.
I'm working on prepress pdf checker, and i need to identify if pdf is in CMYK colorspace, which colors it con taints (C, M, Y, K) and in addion if there are some PANTONE colors.
edit:
ImageMagick 6.8.7-7 Q16 x86_64
Mac OS X 1.9
Please any hints?
Thanks!
elevate
I have problem for example with this Img:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/splqyjpkyxrp44i/Black.pdf
It's should be cmyk(0, 0, 0, 76), cmyk(0, 0, 0, 96) colors, but imagemagick identify says, its sRGB.
I'm working on prepress pdf checker, and i need to identify if pdf is in CMYK colorspace, which colors it con taints (C, M, Y, K) and in addion if there are some PANTONE colors.
edit:
ImageMagick 6.8.7-7 Q16 x86_64
Mac OS X 1.9
Please any hints?
Thanks!
elevate
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fmw42
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Re: Problem with detecting colorspace
IM definitely thinks the image is sRGB. Either the upload changed it or you created it different from what you thought.
What was the exact method and tools used to create this file? Is there an original raster image that was converted to pdf or was this created as vector format?
What tool did you use to verify that the file was CMYK before uploading it? Did you just trust Illustrator? If so, can you verify that Illlustrator did not convert it to sRGB before saving even though you specified CMYK colors?
There is some indications of CMYK usage in the file as seen from EXIFTOOL. But there is no field that uniquely says its colorspace is either CMYK or sRGB. Perhaps there is something changed in Illustrator or not written in the file so that IM thinks/assumes it is sRGB.
Can you verify that Illustrator save the file as CMYK explicitly? Perhaps you need to add a CMYK profile when saving?
exiftool -s -ee -g1 -u -n -D Black.pdf
What was the exact method and tools used to create this file? Is there an original raster image that was converted to pdf or was this created as vector format?
What tool did you use to verify that the file was CMYK before uploading it? Did you just trust Illustrator? If so, can you verify that Illlustrator did not convert it to sRGB before saving even though you specified CMYK colors?
There is some indications of CMYK usage in the file as seen from EXIFTOOL. But there is no field that uniquely says its colorspace is either CMYK or sRGB. Perhaps there is something changed in Illustrator or not written in the file so that IM thinks/assumes it is sRGB.
Can you verify that Illustrator save the file as CMYK explicitly? Perhaps you need to add a CMYK profile when saving?
exiftool -s -ee -g1 -u -n -D Black.pdf
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