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Command -rotate doing my image quality loss

Posted: 2014-12-18T09:56:35-07:00
by coisa2004
Hello everybody, I have a problem I wonder if anyone can help me, I have a picture in .jpg format, and I'm doing a test caught this image and give a -rotate of "360" but with this it loses quality. I've tried for the quality in 100 and when I do this the image greatly increases the size of the image. I'm missing some parameter?

Below is the command I'm using.

convert original.jpg -rotate "360" rotate.jpg

Re: Command -rotate doing my image quality loss

Posted: 2014-12-18T10:12:09-07:00
by coisa2004
Identify orignal image.


Image: original.jpg
Format: JPEG (Joint Photographic Experts Group JFIF format)
Mime type: image/jpeg
Class: PseudoClass
Geometry: 1253x1763+0+0
Resolution: 150x150
Print size: 8.35333x11.7533
Units: PixelsPerInch
Type: Grayscale
Base type: Grayscale
Endianess: Undefined
Colorspace: Gray
Depth: 8-bit
Channel depth:
gray: 8-bit
Channel statistics:
Pixels: 2209039
Gray:
min: 0 (0)
max: 255 (1)
mean: 238.276 (0.934417)
standard deviation: 54.1681 (0.212424)
kurtosis: 10.95
skewness: -3.48109
entropy: 0.290381
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date:create: 2014-12-18T14:03:36-02:00
date:modify: 2014-12-15T09:21:51-02:00
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Version: ImageMagick 6.9.0-0 Q16 x64 2014-11-14 http://www.imagemagick.org

Re: Command -rotate doing my image quality loss

Posted: 2014-12-18T10:13:26-07:00
by coisa2004
Identify rotate image

Image: rotate.jpg
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Re: Command -rotate doing my image quality loss

Posted: 2014-12-18T10:21:25-07:00
by fmw42
JPG is a lossy compression, even with -quality 100. You would need to use PNG or JPG2000 to avoid the compression degradation. It is best to avoid using JPG for intermediate image formats.

Re: Command -rotate doing my image quality loss

Posted: 2014-12-21T18:15:58-07:00
by anthony
Just for a bit of completeness!

The -rotate 360 is irrelevant as it is a loss-less operation (essentually a no-op)
http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/warping/#rect_rotates

HOWEVER it does have one effect. It 'taints' the image (equivelent of -taint), whcih means ImageMgaick thinks the image has changed. As such rather than simply copying the source image FILE to destination (short circuit image processing)
http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/files/#delegate_direct

But as mentioned already, JPG is a lossy image file format. Just the simple act of reading it in and writeing it out again will modify and thus degrade the image contents.

The exception with regards to JPEG (there is always an exception!) is if you used Jpeg2000 version of JPEG whcih does have lossless image encoding (a bit late on the scene so not often used).

As such if you remove the usless rotate operation, you probably would have seen no quality loss, but not due to lack of trying to process the image on your part, but because IM though it was better not to process the image at all!

:lol: